Here's Donald Rumsfeld on FOX News Sunday, June 26, 2005:
WALLACE: Let's start with these reports of these direct meetings between U.S. officials, including allegedly a representative of the Pentagon, and insurgent commanders. Did they happen, and, if so, what did they accomplish?And here's Tony Blair on Monday, June 27, 2005:
RUMSFELD: Well, the first thing I would say about the meetings is they go on all the time. . . . [edited for blah-blah-rumspeak] And if you think about it, there aren't the good guys and the bad guys over there. There are people all across the spectrum.
There's the government, people who strongly support the government, people that are leaning and not quite sure what to do, people who are leaning the other way and not quite sure what to do, and then insurgents and people who oppose it, which is a mixture. . . .[emph added]
British, U.S. and Iraqi officials have been in talks with groups in Iraq that support violence to try to bring them into the political process, British Prime Minister Tony Blair said.
He spoke Monday a day after U.S. and Iraqi officials said they were talking to tribal leaders, clerics and some groups linked to the Sunni Arab insurgency. Blair said Sunnis were involved in the talks.
However, he said they did not compromise London's position on terrorism and added there was no contact with hardliners such as al Qaeda's Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who he said was at the extreme end of a "spectrum". . . ."There'll be a spectrum leading through to people who aren't engaged in violence but who are sympathetic to the violence, and then in the middle you've got some people who may be involved in parts of the violence or not," he added. [emph added]
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